He Didn’t Need Those Votes Anyway!
Oh boy. If this were grade school Mitt Romney would have finished not just a “terrible, awful, no good, very bad day” but one that caps off a train wreck of a month.
While I’m sure the folks at the Daily Show and the Colbert Report love the material I think we are close to crossing the comedic self-destruction value line and may actually start to pity him.
After his campaign stumbled out of the convention with no real aim, went off on Libya for some reason (Why you would venture into a foreign policy offensive when your staunchest allies are stressing the economy is boggling?), and had the traces of infighting plastered over the front pages of all major news sources (Even Fox and WSJ contributors are calling for a campaign shakeup at this point.), you’d think the worst was over.
But then Mother Jones (thanks to local campaign researcher James Carter IV) broke the now infamous 47% video. In this video, from a private fundraiser, Mitt Romney claims that 47% of Americans are dependent on government and believe that government has the obligation to care for them and this means that they will vote for Obama no matter what. He writes off 47% of the American population as a lost cause and says that “My job is, is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
This quote gives us a glimpse we don’t normally get of Romney and is eye-opening.
He then goes on to insult the Palestinians and lays out his foreign policy proposal for the Middle-East as literally “at best we can kick the can down the road a few more years” before closing by both stating that the Latino vote is dangerous for America because it’s becoming increasingly Democratic (he believes Latinos are the problem, not Republican anti-Latino policies) and then patronizingly says how it would be easier to get elected if he were considered Latino.
Conservative strategists and columnists all took issue with comments ranging from stupid to arrogant. Peggy Noonan, who worked for Ronald Reagan, and who writes for the Wall Street Journal urged “an intervention”.
By week’s end, Republican candidates’ across the country in Senate and House races had to take sides with many simply walking away from the Romney comments. National Co-Chair Tim Pawlenty quietly left the campaign for another job. The wagon circling has become a circular inward firing squad.
But some in the Republican Tea Party base and many Right Wing Talk show hosts are at the other end egging Romney on and not just urging but demanding he double down on his comments. It’s important that folks know the actual facts about the 47% that includes people like my mother, Mitt Romney’s dad, and countless other members of our families and friends we know and love.
I want to break down Mitt’s accusation that 47% of Americans pay no income tax and therefore will vote for Obama first. What is true is that 46-47% of Americans currently pay no income tax. What’s important then is to look at who constitutes this 47% which “will vote for the president no matter what”.
About half of this group does pay payroll taxes. That means they work, they just earn too little to qualify for paying income tax (or as John Stewart put it people “are working, just not working hard enough” to make Mitt happy).
People who are out of work and searching obviously have no income to tax, so they fall into the 47%, whether Republican or Democrat. There are also other taxes such as ad valorem taxes and sales taxes which are paid by these people, even though they pay no income tax. 18% of these people are seniors who receive social security and Medicare (it should be noted that seniors voted for the Republican McCain by over 65% in 2008).
Another chunk of these free loaders are soldiers serving combat duty. 1% are millionaires who have been able to structure their income to avoid paying taxes and I’m willing to bet all those folks aren’t sporting Obama bumper stickers on their yachts.
The “moocher” class Romney demonizes is not at all as monolithically voting Democratic nor a bunch of self-proclaimed victims looking for guaranteed handouts. It is very, very hard to pay no taxes at all, and proportionally, most of the people who come close to a zero balance on tax are from the wealthiest strata of America.
I’m not saying there aren’t people out there who don’t abuse the system. Look long enough and you’ll find a bad apple in any bushel. What I am saying is that lumping all of these people into one category and saying “there’s my problem” isn’t just bad politics, it’s dangerous.
Romney’s comments showed a disregard for the issues facing everyday Americans, especially in the states he is likely to carry! Many of the states with high non-payer rates are in fact Red states. States like Mississippi have a lower median income, and more people living in poverty, but vote Republican. But it’s not Mitt Romney’s job to worry about those people apparently.
The most scary thing about this video isn’t the claim, or the other politically damaging remarks he made but how sincere he was when giving this speech in his natural environment, with his peers the super wealthy, with people he actually does connect with and how pessimistic the real Romney is about America and cynical he is about Americans.
Whether it’s Jack Kennedy or Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan or, dare I say it, George W. Bush, Americans have always looked for optimism from their President. Romney’s own version of class warfare and pessimism about the Americans he wants to represent simply has no place on that list of leaders.
Reprinted from State Senator Curt Thompson's (D-5th) blog. Also, check the Senator out on Facebook and Twitter.
James
11:28 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Curt Thompson gives lapdogs a bad name. I love Mitt and think he's had a fine month as opposed to the empty chair. Only a lapdog wouldn't mention the Obama administrations idiotic loss of an ambassador on 9/11 and subsequent lies about a spontaneous protest and ridiculous video. Skipping intelligence briefings is not good. The Obama Administration was completely wrong or lied about everything associated with the middle eastern crisis. Now obama plans to release additional Gitmo inmates. What could go wrong?
Mitt was also spot on about the 47%. And why doesn't Curt mention anything about Mitt's tax returns I wonder? Pretty good month for Mitt I'd say.
George Wilson
12:18 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
@James
By listening to the news organizations listed below you can always tell what remarks will popup in these comments. You are no exception. You might try to broaden your sources for news.
George Wilson
12:09 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
The three major elements of the Republican Party today are as follows:
1. Plutocrats or country club Republicans
2. Religious Evangelists
3."Archie Bunker" types or in the South the old Dixiecrats
The tea party has in some areas taken over the Republican Party or influenced policy and has to be called out for what it really is as an "organization".
The tea party movement is nothing more than a creation of lobbying firms like Freedom Works run by former Texas congressman Dick Armey.This organization is funded by big corporations in the oil and health care industry and by wealthy conservative individuals. Another word for tea partiers is "astro turf as opposed to a real grass roots movement. The main figure in Georgias' tea party,Debbie Dooley, is paid by Freedom Works or has received money from Freedom Works.
To a large extent these disparate elements are motivated with propaganda from radio talks shows like Boortz,Limbaugh,Cain and the FOX broadcasting network. They take advantage of the fear of change and the economic problems we are having today.
The weak field of Republican candidates reflected all of these three elements of the Republican Party. The plutocrats won out with Romney. This weak coalition will not hold. And will be the demise of the Republican Party.
Debbie Dooley
2:22 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
George, here is something you should try before spouting absolutely FALSE allegations about the tea party movement - try checking out what you have been told. I HAVE NEVER,EVER been paid one dime for any tea party related activity I have been engaged in since 2-2009. I volunteer almost 25 hours per week on behalf of the tea party movement. There were many groups that had grassroots members become involved with the tea party. I was affliated with FreedomWorks as a volunteer grassroots activist and heard Rick Santelli's rant. I then help found Atlanta Tea Party and was on the nationwide conference call to plan the first round of tea parties in the U.S. on 2-27-2009.
if you dare search the Atlanta Journal Constitution for my name , you will find that I am freqauently critical of elected Republicans. I filed an ethics complaint against the most powerful GOP Senator in the Senate. We stepped in and sided with the NAACP, Labor unions and Occupy Atlanta and fought the protest bill that was directed at labor unions and was backed by GOP legislative leadership. We partnered with Common Cause and League of women voters to advocate for tough ethics reform that was opposed by GOP legislative leadership. We partnered with Sierra Club and the NAACP to defeat T-SPLOST and appeared at joint press conferences with these groups. The Governor, Lt. Governor and Speaker of the House supported T-SPLOST.
RL
4:17 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Guess what George? Beats being part of a party that is comprised of:
1) loser moochers
2) ticked off feminists
3) atheists
4) the "dis-enfranchised "
5) college students that want a free ride
Nice group.
Also - Curt have you ever considered writing a trash piece on that idiot Biden our Obummers many mistakes? Or the following easy pickings: Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, Ed Schultz, Tim Geithner, Chris Matthews, etc. Of course not. Not enough space on this site.
Pat Gonzalez
8:10 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
George, it is obvious that you are an intelligent individual and have made an
excellent analysis of the Republican party.
Herman Dunwoody
1:42 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
George Wilson, that is a bold faced lie about the Tea Party. The fact that you and that doucebag Thompson would vote for a man that is destroying this country proves that you are both brainwashed libtards. Mitt is going to win Georgia big. Deal with it.
George Wilson
5:21 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
@Herman Dunwoody
Mitt will probably win Georgia and the rest of the South(see number 3) in my list.But
Obama will win the election with 50.7 % of the vote and as of today the probability of that happening is 68%.Deal with that.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:31 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
That 50.7 percent sure states that the election is razor close...
And presents perhaps the first statement you have made that I CAN agree with.
That said, its still going to be a ROMNEY victory.
George Wilson
3:17 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
@Debbie Dooley
My source was an article in the AJC some time ago.I'll find it and publish excerpts from the article.Where does the tea party get its funding?
George Wilson
5:02 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
@Herman Dunwoody
It is almost a joke if it were not so insane that this Republican Party forged in Tea Party ire puts up a man who commits and would even do more of exactly the things the Tea Party loathed. One wonders why he is behind. Way to go Republicans you are slowly ensuring your Party's demise
George Wilson
5:10 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
When considering numbers, I marvel at how so many in the US think 39 months (not 4 years) was enough time to fix the second worst economic meltdown in our history. Most people have car loans longer than 39 months. If one needs more than 39 months to pay for a car, how can that same person think one guy can fix an entire economy in that amount of time? The expectation is unrealistic, and especially so with an obstructionist GOP and a global economy weighing ours down.
It's shocking really that more folks aren't outraged by GOP obstructionism that has extended our economic difficulties.
Herman Dunwoody
5:46 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Really George? Who is really behind? Gallup and Rasmussen have it tied and NO incumbant have ever been re-elected with a 44% approval rating and 33% approval rating on the economy. The GOP and Tea Party ARE obstructionists to Obama's Marxist objectives. You are just angry that the Tea Party cut up Barry's Chinese credit card in 2011. You are obviously a Socialist George. Ronald Reagan cleaned up Carter's huge mess in his first term and won re-election by a lanslide and he did it did by taking responsibility not blaming his predecessor. It's called leadership.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:34 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Hey George that timeline to fix our economy was presented by Obama himself ... So it was really exempted from the Hope and Change contract?
George Wilson
5:55 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
@Herman Dunwoody
As of today our mathematical models here at my company show a probability of 68% that Obama will win the election. The vote will be 50.7% for Obama.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:35 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Razor thin not exactly the mandate.
George Wilson
3:32 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@Herman Dunwoody
Update on presidential polling as of 10.1:
Vote Obama 51.6%
Vote Romney 47.4
85.1 % probability Obama will win election
14.9 % Romney
Jerry Fuchs
8:58 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Gotta admire those optimists!
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/Fooksie/Forward-1-1.png
George Wilson
4:02 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
@Jerry Fuchs
We already reached the bottom with Bush and the Republicans.We are not going down or backward ....we are only going forward.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:36 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Forward where?
Thats important because if we are the behind the lead dog ...
Brian Crawford
7:49 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Great piece Curt! Romney has absolutely no sense of noblesse oblige. He exudes an aura of entitlement and privilege and seems incapable of empathizing with the plight of average Americans.
Some of our best Presidents have been very wealthy men. Romney's money isn't the problem, The problem is his arrogance and the unwillingness to acknowledge his good fortune and the responsibility that comes with it.
Pat Gonzalez
8:17 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Brian, you "hit the nail on the head.". Mitt would win the award for arrogance. I am one of the"47 percent victims.". After working hard all of my life, I prefer to think of my social security and Medicare benefits as entitlement, rather than Mitt's opinion of my compensation.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:40 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Brian I thought you were writing about our current Prez...
How many "regular families" send their preteen daughters to Mexico with a few of her friends for Spring Break?
Brian Crawford
2:13 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Malia was 13 and It was a school trip. They were visiting orphanages and archeological sites.
Wayne Kelley
8:03 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
George: You know you're right when all the opposition can do is resort to ad hominem attacks and name-calling. It's so sad that "adults" can't have a political conversation without using terms like "libtard", "losers","moochers", etc. I agree with everything you said and admire your maturity and respectfulness in the face of this desperate vitriol.
George Wilson
3:17 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
@Wayne Kelley
Thanks for the remarks but you left out "Socialist". As the owner of three corporations my employees always get a charge out of that one which is frequent.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:42 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Exactly what are your businesses involved in?
Brian Crawford
8:05 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Ran across this on AlterNet this morning:
"We could call it Romnesia: the ability of the very rich to forget the context in which they made their money. To forget their education, inheritance, family networks, contacts and introductions. To forget the workers whose labour enriched them. To forget the infrastructure and security, the educated workforce, the contracts, subsidies and bail-outs the government provided."
Recommended reading: http://www.alternet.org/economy/romnesia-ability-very-rich-forget-context-which-they-made-their-money?akid=9449.1068945.K1vwsu&rd=1&src=newsletter716901&t=7
dacula_dude
8:01 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Brian, this is a very dangerous concept, that if you build a business and wealth using this "context" then everyone that contributed to the "context" is entitled to a portion of the fruits of your labor.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:45 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Obamanesia: The inability to produce college transcripts, recall real estate transactions in Chicago or remember sermons from your pastor of 20 plus years. Yeah there is is some fun here
RL
8:18 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Brian - you have too much idle time on your hands.
Do you just sit at the computer all day perusing liberal websites?
George Wilson
6:28 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
@RL
He spends time on all kinds of websites.That is why Brian has accurate and reliable information backed up by facts.
RL
3:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
George - his sources are always left leaning, including government figures he always likes to refer to. That is problem with you leftists - you think what the government tells you is fact. Like lemmings to the cliff.
David
8:54 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
The revolution is coming.It's closer than you think. Arm yourselves well. The enemy could be your neighbor.
Crystal Huskey
10:33 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
My enemy will never be someone who simply votes or thinks differently than me.
Brian Crawford
12:32 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
I'm usually very polite on here but that kind of crackpot talk is entirely irresponsible. Arm yourselves against your neighbor? Seriously? You need professional help my friend.
George Wilson
3:53 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@
David
'Workers of the World Unite you have Nothing to lose but your Chains"
GregRodgers
9:45 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Its funny...all I hear is Mitt talking about personal responsibility. When he says this all of his followers cheer and clap loudly. However, Mitt is losing and his minions say its because of the "Liberal Media". How about Mitt Romeny take personal responsibility for not knowing what he is doing...things that he says?
Is the "Liberal Media" Fox News? They may not bash him but even this "Liberal Outlet" has Mittsy losing. Lets not forget those Liberals Peggy Noonan, Joe Scarborough, David Brooks and Bill Kristol! So its the media's fault. Stop blaming the Media...its the guy running!!
I told you folks how horrible Mitt was as a governor, but you followers hate Obama so badly that you would want to elect the next Panderer and Chief in to office. Its really pathetic.
Face the facts that others have known for years.....Mitt Romney is a disaster!!
It has been reported that even Ryan refers to Mitt as "The Stench" on his road bus.
I'm glad to see so many of our fellow citizens willing to throw the country under the bus for a: Panderer, paint my face brown for my latin audience, bus my own crowd to my interview, flip flop, increase my taxes to fit my statement, job outsourcer, fee people to death, Mass Government Hard Drive erasing, Corporate welfare grabbing, vulture capatilist....who does not create jobs...he kills them!!
David
10:08 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
The lesser of two evils...one of which is EVIL.
GregRodgers
10:14 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Yes..David...with talk of revolution..you'd know evil...
RL
10:38 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Greg - anyone but Obummer.
I agree, Romney is not great but he sure beats what we have. So what if he likes to make money. Who doesn't? I'm surprised he wants to be prez. With his cash I would be looking to protect my assets and move to another country. A lame duck Obummer will finish the re-distribution of the wealth. I do not want his hands on any more of my money than he has already taken. You do have some wealth, don't you Greg? Well, your boy wants it. Yesterday, his USDA announced another 1.6 billion will be spent on Hispanic and women farmers that were denied loans. Hmmmmm.....he would not be pandering here with more funny money? Call it what is - reparations. You and the other leftist on this blog, want to discuss Romney. You really need to wake up to the Obummer threat. Or maybe you will benefit from the financial rape of productive Americans.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:48 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Greg include debt in your definition of tax and your tax claim goes right out the window.
GregRodgers
10:58 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
The problem with saying redistribution is every president has done it for 100 years. This keyword is hardwired to radical republican brains. Do you know that under Obama taxes are the lowest in years? So much for the whole redistribution nonsense.
I don't care about Romney and his money. I do care that he killed American jobs to get it though, and you should too! It shows his disregard for us.
Romney is true threat. Ask yourself..why has he been trying to become President so badly for the past 11 years?
As for reparations...for what?
As for leftist..no I am not. I am sanist!! Lol..
You mittsters....no words!! Killing sending jobs overseas and putting people out of work..totally UNAMERICAN!!!
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:49 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
GE CEO is on the Prez's commission on jobs and you think we'll move forward...
Seems those shovel ready items weren't so shovel ready.
RL
11:09 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Taxes are collected and used to run the government. Yes, every President has done that. That is how government is financed. This president takes it much further. He wants to "even the playing field". Does not matter how hard one has worked to acquire wealth. Obummer wants to spread it around. It is plain wrong. Give me the capitalist over the community organizer ANY day. Did Romney out-source your job or something. Taking a page from Jeff - Why the hatred, Greg?
George Wilson
3:52 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
@RL
Being a community organizer is a harder job than being a capitalist. I have been both. You are working with little funding to make changes against entrenched interests with people who have to be educated and motivated to effect change. A really tough job. Also, Obama has been president for almost four years so his experience makes him superior to Romney's experience as a governor for four years. Now if the do nothing Republican congress would get its act together, we could move this country forward to solve some problems.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:52 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Those Federal grants are SO complex - so here's one business.
Yes that do nothing DEM senate needs ANOTHER 4 years to pass the budget for 2010...
Wayne Kelley
12:06 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Taxes are used to run the government, including Medicare and Social Security. Do you want to abolish them as well? Some T-partiers have said they are unconstitutional. Do you agree?
Crystal, thanks for your voice of sanity. The things that are being said about the President now are unbelievable. Sometimes I can't believe this is my country anymore. When I was young, we had different positions, different beliefs, but we assumed the opposition were people of good will who were trying to do their best for the country, even if we disagreed. Now, if you don't agree or want to try a different approach, you're a Nazi, communist, socialist, moocher, loser, feminazi, "Obummer" ... take your pick. I remember when we respected the President, because he is the President of ALL Americans. We truly have come to a sorry state of affairs.
RL
12:19 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Medicare and SS will never be abolished. Simple as that. They do need to be dramatically re-worked. They are both unsustainable in their current form. it will be painful for a lot of us.
Regarding the President - I'm willing to bet everyone that contributes on these posts respects the office, as they should. However, it goes both ways with the person in the Oval Office. Respect is mutual. Americans are not being respected by the current POTUS. He needs to go.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:56 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Wayne
Social Security was clearly known to be unconstitutional by its proponents back when it was passed - scan Wikipedia.
It remained in effect by sheer luck and since then grown beyond anything originally envisioned.
Cheryl Miller
1:28 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
RL, your use the term "feminist" in such a manner as you did in your comment above would suggest a derogatory definition of the term. Care to enlighten us as to who you specifically harbor this particular animosity toward?
The way it looks to me is that you are using a fairly outdated term in hopes of preventing women from even attempting to respond to your political nonsense for fear that you might insult them. You should run for the DeKalb County School Board.
I'm not sure if you are aware of what the term "feminist" actually means today so I'm guessing you are of an advanced age. Perhaps you are even close to becoming a "moocher" on Social Security yourself. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
Today, a feminist, is a term used to describe a woman of historical prominence who fought for political rights and equal treatment under the laws of the constitution of the United States. You know, the rights that are supposed to be afforded to all people, regardless of race, sex, religon, etc. Your connotation above is equivelent of insulting Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in a room of African-American citizens. Not wise, RL.
You just helped your candidate lose another vote. Way to go!
David
3:33 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
That may be your definition of feminist Cheryl. But that is not the popular definition of the word today. But feminist have done a wonderful job in the past. Women can now allow strangers to raise their kids, they can emasculate men,...shall I continue?
George Wilson
6:32 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
@Cheryl Miller
Thanks for a great definition of feminist.
RL
10:06 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Cheryl - I stand by my comments. The feminist have found their party. Am I not right?
I never said SS recipients were moochers. Did I? You're making things up.
I pay the maximum into SS each year because the imperial federal government makes me. That is around 12 - 15K annually? I am not confident I will see a penny of it when I retire. No, the moochers are feeloaders that will not work because they have become too comfortable living off the producers. You know, parasites. I can get into details people on here might not like.
Yes, I would probably insult a room full of blacks if I described MLK as a womanizing communist. Better leave that one alone.
Finally - how do you know who I support for president? You have a crystal ball?
Cheryl Miller
1:39 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Debbie, "We partnered with Sierra Club and the NAACP to defeat T-SPLOST." You may have partnered with them and T-SPLOST was defeated, but the two things are not mutually exclusive. Astro-turfers often seek to infiltrate real grass roots movements in hopes of controlling the outcome.
To claim you were instrumental in the defeat of T-SPLOST, then please tell us how you voted. Because, I'm fairly certain it was the people who voted against it who actually defeated it. But, even that is questionable these days, isn't it?
Wayne Kelley
2:30 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
RL - I didn't ask whether you thought they would be abolished. I was addressing the "redistribution" comments. SS and Medicare are further examples of redistribution, both of which have worked really well since their inceptions. Granted they face dire financial hurdles, but both admirably serve the purposes for which they were created.
Cheryl - I disagree with your definition of "feminist." I consider myself a feminist, simply because I believe that women should have the same rights, opportunities, and responsibilities as men. I don't think that's an outdated concept.
RL
3:49 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Wayne - you did ask me if they should be abolished. Go back and read your post.
SS and medicare are redistributed funds. Can't agree they work very well. Would you opt out of SS today? I know I would. Both are OK because Obamacare saved Medicare and a lame duck Obama will move to confiscate private pensions and retirement accounts in the name of "the public good". SS saved!
Wayne Kelley
4:09 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
You're correct, I asked if you think they SHOULD be abolished, not if they WOULD be or will be abolished. You didn't answer that question in your first reply. Maybe YOU should go back and read the post.
It seems to me that you take an aggressive and angry stance from the get-go in these discussions. It makes it difficult to talk reasonably. But I'm not sure if you want to talk reasonably. By reasonably, I mean, being respectful of the others' beliefs even if you don't agree with them, making an effort to understand where they are really coming from - things like that.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
12:01 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Wayne Social Security really hasn't worked so well because the lock on the box was picked and left off years ago. It holds IOUs
GregRodgers
3:06 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Spoiler alert..this is a spoiler alert..
Gallup has Obama up 6 points right now. He is over 50% in three battleground states...
What was that? I think a few Republicans heads just exploded...
We now return you to your show that is already in progress.....
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
12:03 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Yeah just like Mike B I'll hold out (Smiles)
Cheryl Miller
4:32 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Thanks Wayne, I think. But... women do have the same rights, opportunities and responsibilities as men. Seriously, where have you all been hanging out? Oh, the Gold Dome? I guess that explains it.
Well, let me update you and the boys on a few radical ideas: a "feminist" as it is implied in the earlier comments is a figmant of the imagination of a paranoid man who thinks everyone who doesn't look like him must be out to take all his money away from him. That guy ought to be a lot of fun to play Monopoly with, don't ya think? Cheesh!
In the real world, where we breathe the air and seize the day rather than crying over our last glass of spilt milk from the spilt milk factory our Daddy gave us, it references an era of political activism necesary to gain those things you said you thought we "should" have. But, guess what - it worked!
Let me check... rights, opportunities and responsibilities. Yup, got 'em. Thanks women from the 1960's who were so "ticked off." I appreciate it. Now can we move on to the actual issues of today? Like state charter schools and the horrible scam ALEC is hoping to pull over on everyone to privatize our schools and profit off our tax dollars? Anyone? I'd love to hear you all justify this one ....
Cheryl Miller
4:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
RL - yeah, the teachers in DeKalb were convinced it was a good idea to opt out of Social Security and look how great that has worked out for them.
http://dekalbschoolwatch.blogspot.com/2011/03/teachers-file-lawsuit-over-dekalb.html
RL
5:19 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Lets see - TWO teachers filed a lawsuit in March 2011. That is recent news.
Everyone makes decisions. You need to live by those decisions.
Cheryl Miller
6:23 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Yes, and millions of dollars go to the lawyers as a result. Mine, yours and the ones that were earmarked for the education of our children. Why? Because of the greed of those who choose to use a vulnerable population of children as a playing field for their political games. And everyone ends up a loser. Great system. Great values. Rather than help our country rise above the difficulties we have been facing, you prefer to bleed the whole system dry so you can say you died with the most toys. That's attractive. You really like to win at all costs, just so long as they are not your costs, right?
RL
6:27 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
What are you talking about?
Talk about going off on a tangent.
Tammy Osier
9:46 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Funny thing about the TEA party that no one talks about. It's composed of Republicans, AND Democrats. So, I guess they are bad mouthing themselves. People of all economic statuses as well. They all have come together to hold BOTH parties accountable. Sounds like a good organization.
Uh..and Archie Bunker "types"? You make me think of that LT. on Hill Street Blues that used to refer to people of color or foreigners as those "types". LOLOL Normally, I scroll through your stuff (hard to take it seriously), but saw the bullets and you always have your list of "types" of people on them. Didn't Archie Bunker use that term? Oh, yeah, he did. LOL
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
12:05 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
So... Let's be careful out there.
Wayne Kelley
4:39 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Tammy - you don't seriously believe there are many (if any) former Democrats among the T-party ranks, do you? From everything I have heard and seen, it's all disenchanted Republicans and independents, and they're all pretty far to the right, politically.
Cheryl Miller
11:20 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Thanks Tammy.
Taxpaying Mom
11:42 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
For me "It's the economy stupid" still applies to this election - we need someone who will yes- make the corporations in America feel secure enough to start spending their billions of dollars they are sitting on and expand/hire more people for their businesses. I don't agree with everything either candidate touts - but I do believe Mitt would be able to calm the markets & get businesses spending again - and consumer spending will then follow - I don't see that happening with another 4 years of Obama - so yes, voting for Mitt - best choice of two not so great choices - we've come to this America because as Wall Street goes...so goes the country!
George Wilson
3:39 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@Taxpaying Mom
Business will not spend the 2 to 3 trillon dollars they have until there is demand.How do you create demand? Why would Romney want to cut corporates taxes when they cannot spend the money without demand?I say create jobs hence demand with infrastructure projects and guarantee everyone a job.Pay for it with higher taxes on those making over 250,000 dollars a year and yes higher corporate taxes.
Cheryl Miller
4:38 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Make it illegal or highly expensive for U.S. businesses to outsource manufacturing jobs overseas. Problem solved.
And, someone should invent a portable lie detector that politicians must wear at all times, like a person would if he/she were on house arrest. A buzzer sounds a noise and gives a small electric shock when a lie is told. Hopefully those with pacemakers will have great incentive to be the early adopters of a better, more truthful way of doing "the people's business."
Cheryl Miller
4:40 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
No coincidence that "bailout" is a term used when either a criminal or a corporate CEO is given their freedom on someone else's dime. Some even get away with murder.
Cynthia Montgomery
1:22 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
This election is about the ECONOMY- Stupid! No, this election is about UNEMPLOYMENT- Stupid! No, this election is about Obama's need to become a Boob Tube Mega Star- Stupid. No, this election is about the cost of living- Stupid! No, this election is about gas prices- Stupid! No, this election is about our national security - Stupid! No this election is about our future Stupid. Which man has show his capabilities to improve the future for us and out grandchildren. Obama - 4 years of devision, terrorist attacks, and class hate. Romney- proved track record of making the hard decision, even if unpopular and moving forward! After Obama's last week of coverup on the 911 Embassy Attack, surly there is no question as to how anyone should vote! Coming soon to a television show near you the "PLEASE LOVE ME as I AM JUST EYE CANDY, PRESIDENT of the United States! What is that sound? Oh yes, the 20% realizing the reality of another four years of despair as they cross over to the right!