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ABC & NBC Missing Women at the GOP Convention

In my lifetime, I have seen the Grand Old Party change.  What was once a party of all white men has now become the party of blacks, females, Latinos and gays.  How is it that the party of Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan has become the inclusive party?  After watching the Republican National Convention, RNC, last week, I was energized as I watched the variety of female speakers parade across the stage.  As a child, I watched the conventions and always thought, “Where are the ladies and why do only men talk at the microphone?”  While I played with my Effenbee baby dolls, I was, at a young age, still sure that a woman belonged on that stage giving her reasons as to why I should vote for her candidate. Last week my childhood questions were answered by the party I believe most is the party of independent, hard working, risk taking, family loving, achievement expecting, national defending, budget cutting, world leading, charity balanced party. I saw the GOP as in inclusive group of all the people.  But what about the women?

Sure, in the past, every once in a while, the camera would pan over to an older, wild haired, painted up, 10 gallon hatted, pin covered vest wearing, woman (likely a secretary to the local republican party) from Texas but short of that, few women in the past years of watching the conventions were shown.  It was about the same for both conventions.  It was a scene that made me feel like I was not welcome at their party. If I had been a black little girl, I am sure I would have been wondering where my role models were also.  I remember battles being waged during that week. I remember signs with different names hoisted in the air as the convention attendees fought to get their man elected. It was exciting to watch. We waited until some state’s delegate votes would put one man over the top to become the parties presidential candidate. The crowd would erupt. The balloons would fall. The cameras would search for the winner and his wife to capture their excitement.  “Well, he’s is the lesser of the two evils!” my Dad would pronounce. His comment was something I did not understand then, but do now. 

Conventions have changed. Parties have changed. Voters have changed. Now each party’s candidate is already chosen before the convention begins.  The excitement of whom will be the nominee is no more.  There is only one name on the patriotic signs bouncing throughout the convention venue. The conventions are carefully designed and played out as they rise to a fever pitch of emotion and value laden speeches given by the party stars, until the nominee finally appears on stage to accept their party’s nomination.

First, for me, the excitement is still there. There is something exciting at the conventions.  Call me a sexist. I love that there are women on the floor, lots of women; white women, black women, Latino women, and yes even gay women.  There are women in the decision seats now. My voice is being heard and being part of changing the Republican party.  Still, some women are painted up and wearing a collection of political pins on their vest and yes, some are still wearing those wild hats, but women are there and that makes me excited for the GOP’s future.  

Secondly, and more importantly, is the fact that there are women speakers at the podium; black women, white women, and Latino women. I would love Mitt’s mother, as we think alike.  As Mitt’s mother used to say, “Why should women have any less say about the decisions of this great nation?”  Women are now there as members and as delegates, not only as the wife’s of the candidates.  I watched with pride as Condoleezza Rice spoke passionately, intelligently, and from experience.  Also, the first Latino female governor, Susana Martinez spoke from her heart with passion about her rise to highest office in the state government. How can it be that a black past cabinet member and a new Latino governor are in the Republican party? Wait a minute, doesn’t the other party continue to scream out to the voters that the Republican party is not the party of women or blacks or Latinos or their issues?  

Los Angeles Mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa said that Republicans "can't just trot out a brown face" to make inroads with the Latino community, an increasingly important growing bloc.  EXCUSE ME!  Please don’t tell these strong, intelligent, women that they are nothing more than “brown faces” being “trotted out!”   Do not tell these female republican governors that they are not really governors because the democrats say they are just token faces.  WOW!  Talk about an arrogant male. The more I hear from the left, the more I have to believe they care little about the hands that rock the world’s cradles.  For them women are merely TOKENS to be trotted out when needed.  Hmmm, his words are allowing us to see through a window into his mind. Women are now an important part of the GOP, as in “WE THE PEOPLE.” Diversity will always produce better leadership because diversity offers a multitude of experiences from which knowledge can be drawn. 

Speaking to a friend after the second night of watching the RNC, he sharply said, “Yeah, ABC did not show much diversity in their coverage of the Republican party, they are so biased against the Republican party!”  I was shocked.  I know ABC (American Broadcast Company) to many stands for “Awful Biased Channel” and the NBC for many stands for “Nasty Boys Club”  but to intentionally not show blacks, women, and Latinos to portray the Republican party in a poor light is nothing less questionable. 

On the last night of the convention, my husband and I flipped back and forth to see ABC’s convention coverage and indeed they kept the cameras on white males about 85% of the time.  This is sad for me, as a journalism major and a past newspaper employee, to witness such bias when reporting the news.  It is the job of the media to REPORT the news, not to twist or MAKE the news.  Yet it is happening at an alarming rate. Gatekeepers will always have the final say in what and whom makes the nightly news, yet to intentionally portray a biased view of an entire party...well that is why ABC & NBC’s ratings are so poor. http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/rnc-ratings-night-two-networks-lose-17-million-viewers-compared-to-night-two-of-2008-rnc_b143711  

Trying to fool the American people is just another reason I do not watch the slanted news channels anymore.  Once Dan Rather put his lies under the title of hard hitting investigating news and was outed, I turned off his channel. I won't watch a so called “news channel” that intentionally has an agenda in mind instead of giving us the facts.  So I ask you, why did ABC & NBC leave out viable proof of women in the Republican party?  A what point will the liberal left wing media show the citizens of America that blacks, women, and Latinos are choosing a party that "gets them?"  The Republican party realizes that women are concerned about jobs, housing, and the budget, not just birth control pills as the left would have us believe.

As we watch the national conventions, we see a different view of what each party stands for.  Is there a difference to each party in the way they respect woomen? Is there a difference in each parties voters?  You decide,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related 

I ask that, when the DNC holds their convention this week, you pay attention to the faces ABC & NBC show on screen.   Then ask yourself why has the national media chose not to show the faces of women, blacks, and Laninos at the RNC?  To be fair and balanced lets see whom ABC & NBC features on their coverage of the DNC this week that they chose not to feature last week.   “Educated Yourself and VOTE!” 

Jimmy

5:46 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Good observation Cynthia. The reality is that those networks couldnt show the true makeup of the convention without exposing the lies of their commentators pushing the 'war on women' theme and claiming that Republicans are racists...

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Brian Crawford

6:15 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

The one word you got right I think was "parade", as in "the GOP's parade of speakers at it's convention was a gross misrepresentation of it's core demographics." According to this 2009 Gallup poll 89% of Republicans are white compared to 65% of Democrats. If anything the GOP has gotten less inclusive over the past 3 years making only token appeals to minority voters. http://tinyurl.com/ydv6vqa

Thanks to gains fought for mostly by Democrats, women in general are much more involved in today's political process. Yes, even in Republican politics although many Republican policies continue to diminish women's rights.

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Tammy Osier

7:00 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Token appeals Brian?? Are they tokens when they are democrats? Who are the racists again?? Democrats are the ones that bring it up- every time. It's like you have an agenda. Oh wait...you do. That's the most immature and excuse making answer I've seen from you yet. Condaleeza Rice was no token. She was put into place because the republican party recognized her intellect and class and professionalism-not just because they needed someone of color. Or Colin Powell, a high ranking officer? Was he a token too? This got started with Chief Justice Thomas. Democrats can't stand for blacks to join republican ranks because they can no longer disrespect them and hold them back. I've seen many women in the democratic ranks that were there because of quotas that had no idea how to do their job. Republicans treat each other with respect to the constitution that says ALL men are created equal and have the right to pursue anything they want.
MsNBC deliberately did not show women of color. Deliberately, because it's their job to fool the electorate. Democrats can't get elected by honest means. I think I'll find a lot of agreement on here because I speak the truth. Liberals will start the smear, but I choose to ignore it. I'm agreeing with Cynthia on this becasue it's true.
How dare you, Brian, call them tokens. Maybe I'll show my black friends your writings and let them answer you. You'd be shocked (and embarrassed) at what they'd say to you. It won't be what you're conditioned to hear.

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Tammy Osier

7:04 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Sorry - I thought you called minorities token - my apology, even though I still don't agree with you. It was George the other day that did that (on the Ryan thread). I guess I read it too fast. I meant to answer George when he did that but was too miffed at the time. Blows my cork when I hear people do that. :)

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Tammy Osier

7:06 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Then ask yourself why has the national media chose not to show the faces of women, blacks, and Laninos at the RNC?
It's a good question awaiting some real answers.

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Tammy Osier

7:14 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Just in case you want to know where I got that into me head-lol

George Wilson
4:46 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012

Understanding the demographics of the Republican convention:
1.Social Conservatives
2.Plutocrats
3.Aggrieved whites (Talk radio listeners)
4.DixieRepubs (former Dixiecrats) Some similarities with # 3
5.Token Hispanic,women,and African Americans (we need to get a little market share of these groups)

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Brian Crawford

7:32 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Tammy , I watched all of the speeches on MSNBC and I saw plenty of women both at the podium and on the floor. As for minorities, there were only 46 African American delegates (2%) at the RNC which is probably why more didn't make it on camera. There were however two delegates who were ejected for throwing peanuts at a black camerawoman telling her "This is how we feed animals". http://tinyurl.com/ce3nxdo

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Ed Varn

8:24 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Brian, I find that interesting, considering the following:

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/08/28/msnbc-cuts-every-speech-made-by-a-minority-from-rnc-speech-coverage/
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/28/msnbc-abandons-gop-convention-during-every-speech-by-a-minority/
http://twitchy.com/2012/08/29/despicable-msnbc-lapdogs-whitewash-minority-speeches-from-rnc-coverage/
http://www.therightscoop.com/race-baiting-msnbc-cuts-away-from-minority-rnc-speeches/

And there are many more with an easy Google search. So, I gotta wonder what you were smoking when you watched these things on MSNBC which they didn't air.

On the other hand, your admission now means I only have to find the other 16 people who actually watch MSNBC. :-)

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Brian Crawford

7:54 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Thanks for sharing all of those right wing blogs Ed, no wonder you're so confused.

Tammy Osier

8:13 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Having said that, I think it's WONDERFUL to hear the likes of Rubio telling about his American heritage and his immigrant parents among so many others that are growing in great numbers. I like what Cynthia said about black and latino women changing to the Republican party because finally someone "gets" them - they want to be intelligent and in powerful positions to enact great things. They are above being in a party that has nothing more to offer than birth control and abortions and token positions. It's about intelligence and competence, not sex.
I'm so sick of hearing the democrats holler racism and tokens! I guess that's all they've got. I guess they have to do that since they don't have much to show for what they're capable of (Biden- lolol). And yeah, I can't wait to make the comparisons. You' be proven right, just watch and see.

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Tammy Osier

8:18 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012

Uh...Brian...I read that article. Those were not DELEGATES. Just two attendees (quote: The identity of th assailants is not known at this time). Typical of a democrat. You add or take away words to twist the truth. ANd you wonder why we take such issue with you guys on here. There were a lot of crackpots there that had to be dealt with- hecklers included. There will be some at the democratic convention as well. Will you report on those?

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Brian Crawford

7:48 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Actually, we don't know who they are. Delegates by definition are attendees. But you're right, as long as they remain anonymous "attendee" is the proper description. Mia culpa, My sincere apologies.

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Otis The Town Drunk

7:54 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well Brian, that makes you a liar for trying to deceive. You called Ryan a liar for doing the same thing.

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Brian Crawford

8:03 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I wasn't trying to deceive anyone. Everyone mis-speaks occasionally. The difference is an honest man will admit when he's wrong. A pathological liar will double down on his lies. By the way, did you see the story that Ryan was caught lying to reporters about his Marathon time? The guy just can't help himself.

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Otis The Town Drunk

8:22 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

No Brian, I didn't see that story. I saw the one where Ryan apologized for his mistake. I suppose now that you mis-spoke, we should assume that a lie is when someone intentionally says something they know not to be true. If that's the case, would you agree that neither you or Ryan is a liar?

Cynthia Montgomery

1:33 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

When a black person joins the Republican party they are considered an Uncle Tom. I guess we must now call Condoleezza an Aunt Taffy! It is sad that the Demos are trying to belittle those whom now see a better life in the party that strives for personal responsibility. Oh no, don't look now but your voting base is eroding even as we speak! As more people realize that "giving a man a fish to EAT each day," means you will be constantly having to fish for the other person as well as yourself. That is the mentality of the Demos. The Republicans believe in teaching a man to fish! We are happy to have new thinkers & new believers in the party. Once someone takes a look at the bottom line of each party it is easy to make the switch. The more educated the general populations becomes the larger the right will grow. Let's face it, it is a human drive to want to do for yourself. Most have an inner drive to become their best. The demos just want to keep people down with government programs that encourage single parent. That is a hard life. We all know that families are the cornerstone of this great country. The demos just want a absolute voting block. The way to keep someone voting for you is to make sure they need your help to live. Sad party if you ask me. Lets face it, all Brian could say about the RNC was, HEY, what about those people that got hauled off?!" 4 days of positiveness & what does he have to bring up, goofballs! When you have no record- U need pant goofballs!

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Brian Crawford

7:44 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Personally, I think it's a shame that Mitt didn't choose Condi as his running mate. It would have made a much stronger ticket. You don't seem to have much of a problem with her wanting to destroy marriage by letting Gays in the club, or the fact that she believes in murdering babies (your words). If I didn't know better I might think you held a double standard (actually I'm pretty sure you do).

And please stop with the nonsense about Democrats wanting to keep people dependent on government. What people? The way Republicans divide us is by trying to convince you that Democrats want to take money from hard working folk and give it to lazy people.Horseraddish!!

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Kevin L. Krans

12:46 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Cynthia, there is a direct correlation statistically between education and liberalism. Your comment regarding the right growing as more are educated is factually inaccurate.

"B"

8:49 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Brian - you make me sick.

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Brian Crawford

9:03 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Why Bonnie? For pointing out Cynthia's double standard?

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M.A.Dawson

9:10 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

No brian, because of all of your insults about good people and that picture of yourself. I think I'm going to throw up right now.

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Brian Crawford

9:29 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Who did I insult? I certainly haven't disparaged anyone's appearance like you just did. Good Lord, people insult me all the time here for merely expressing the truth.

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David

11:04 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

You insult practically everyone that reads your words Brian. You mock people that believe in the sanctity of marriage. You mock people that believe killing unborn babies is not the right thing to do. And in another recent post, you found a biblical story about rape "funny."

Personally, I don't find you insulting. I find you pathetic. I'm sorry you have no life but to insult people. Maybe Owebama will approve your disability request for being an ass.

Ed Varn

8:57 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

So, Brian, because the posts are from "right wing blogs" they aren't accurate? Are you saying all these people are posting lies? Or are YOU the liar? I'm not confused at all.

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Brian Crawford

9:22 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Ed I generally find that very little information posted on right wing blogs is accurate, and I look at a lot of them. My brother sends me this stuff all the time. Occasionally a fact or two will slip in but for the most part they aren't very dependable. I couldn't find any complaint of the kind of selective coverage described in the blog posts in the legitimate press, including FOX, and that certainly wasn't my experience.

I do however plan to watch all of the DNC coverage on FOX. I may even have to blog it. Don't worry, I'm recording the whole thing to insure I keep my facts straight.

GregRodgers

9:10 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Cynthia wrote:

"When a black person joins the Republican party they are considered an Uncle Tom. I guess we must now call Condoleezza an Aunt Taffy! It is sad that the Demos are trying to belittle those whom now see a better life in the party that strives for personal responsibility. Oh no, don't look now but your voting base is eroding even as we speak! As more people realize that "giving a man a fish to EAT each day," means you will be constantly having to fish for the other person as well as yourself. That is the mentality of the Demos."

Now when I read this it reads as follows:

When a black person joins the republican party Democrats & other blacks call them Uncle Tom. These people shun those who strive for personal responsibility. But alas...your base (black people) are coming over to the Republican party in Masses. Giving these people welfare and freebees means that we will always continue to give to those people because they do not want to do for themselves.

But hey that's how these people and other Democrats think.

I am sorry, but that is exactly what you are saying....and why its so hard for Black People to jump ship over to the Republican party.

Republicans just don't see or think anyone can see what you folks spew.

Republicans say: They are lazy, welfare people, bums...and gosh darnit even have peanuts thrown at them when they are WORKING!

If the Repubs want the black vote then stop talking down to them.

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M.A.Dawson

9:15 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Greg, that was an awful attempt. Your who;e message is hard to follow and makes no sense. But, you're a dem aren't you?

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GregRodgers

9:34 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

No...I think it makes perfectly good sense thank you. Its a translation of what Cynthia wrote.

And no M.A. Dawson...I am not a Dem.

This country not broken down by two parties...thanks.

I am an Independent Voter and I actually lean Conservative. However, I just care not to buy into this one way or the other mentality that is drilled into Dem/Repub heads.

The 1% should not have tax breaks. Welfare should be curbed for the ultra rich and poor. The middle class is pummeled by taxes, something should be done about it. Corporations should either pay more in taxes or have subsidies reduced. Welfare for poor folks should have limits.

Will any of this happen? Doubt it because both parties like these hand outs.

Lets be real.....

GregRodgers

9:15 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

By the way....here is the breakdown from 2011 stats on Welfare:

Black-39.8%
White-38.8%
Hispanic-15.7%
Other-3.3%
Asian-2.4%

There is a paltry 1% difference between whites and blacks on welfare, however, the face of welfare seems to always be black. I bet a large percentage of those whites on welfare are your rural whites who always vote republican. (North Carolina comes to mind). But hey...I will not be Ryan. I will say that this is an educated guess on my part.

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GregRodgers

9:43 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Brian wrote:

Ed I generally find that very little information posted on right wing blogs is accurate..

I agree Brian...

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Cynthia Montgomery

10:37 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I am so sorry that you demos think that I am only speaking about blacks coming over to our party. But then again, as I say,"you want to make the republicans into poverty haters!" PLEASE go review my original post as every time I used the word black, I also mentioned women, & Latinos! It is amazing that you are color blind in that you did not even see the " women & Latinos" reference. Yep, gotta keep that black voting block so you can preserve your base! Wow you made my point quite nicely. To anyone that is trying to put another website in, to your words for clarity, DON'T because no one will ever accept your proof, left or right. We are all intelligent and our words should be strong enough to make the point but alas, BC will lie at will and ask that we all accept his nonsense as gospel truth. And BC, reread my post again, I never said anything about MSNBC, so why did you bring it up. Everyone knows that the welfare roles are full of white teenage moms. What most do not realize that having a baby is now this generations answer to "I'll do what I want & you can't stop me!" My generation's was drugs! Immature-yes. Stupid-yes. Selfish-yes. Who does not know that having sex may produce a baby? Nobody! It is a choice that people make. We do not need to reward their choice with freebees! The parents of these selfish children having babies are responsible for their children & their children's children. Not anymore, as the demos will gladly help a lifetime voter!

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GregRodgers

11:50 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Sorry Cynthia when you write...(this specific Passage)

"When a black person joins the Republican party they are considered an Uncle Tom. I guess we must now call Condoleezza an Aunt Taffy! It is sad that the Demos are trying to belittle those whom now see a better life in the party that strives for personal responsibility. Oh no, don't look now but your voting base is eroding even as we speak! As more people realize that "giving a man a fish to EAT each day," means you will be constantly having to fish for the other person as well as yourself. That is the mentality of the Demos."

Then it is what it is.....My specific response is a response to this specific statement...

Stop calling me a Demo..simply not true....

Jeff Haas

10:46 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Thank you for not yelling, Cynthia. Unfortunately, your premise is not borne out by the facts:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120902/NEWS0502/209030339?odyssey=mod%7Cmostcom

I have no doubt now that Obama will win re-election, and probably win by a landslide. The diversity of the Democrat party is a major reason why. For all intents and purposes, the Republican party has become the party of terrified white people. I, for one, am white but not terrified, believe in the genuine inclusion presaged by the Founding Fathers -- not the lip service of the Republican party -- and am going to proudly cast my vote for Obama, again.

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Ed Varn

11:00 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Jeff, which Founding Fathers? The ones who were slaveholders? That was certainly inclusive.

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David

11:13 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The Democratic Party continues to support slavery. They have enslaved 47% of the population to their hand-outs. Almost makes me wish I was poor. I need a new pool and hate to think about paying for it myself. Got to get myself a government grant somehow. Hey Jeff, how does that "pay for votes" thing work?

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GregRodgers

11:54 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

David...demos don't enslave anyone.

Part of the 47% are people who have lost jobs. Jobs that went away because of greed in this country. Greed that the Republicans want to congratulate by giving bigger tax breaks and less regulation.

The rest....they do not have to take the handout. To be enslaved, thats against your will. These people can walk away from the handout at anytime. They choose not too. Thats why there needs to be a limit on the handout. Neither side really wants that limit to be enforced. They both need this part of our population to exploit when the time is right for them.

Jeff Haas

11:06 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Presaged, Ed, and we're still working on it. Which party do you think is working harder?

Cynthia, here's another interesting article about diversity, and it certainly addresses women and Latinos:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/29/demographics-favor-obama-over-romney-in-november-election.html

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Kevin L. Krans

11:19 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Any minority aligned with the GOP might as well just wake up everyday, open the window, and shout "I hate myself" to the World.

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Sandy

11:27 am on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

What exactly are you talking about Kevin? Please explain.

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Sandy

12:06 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

The enemy? Now you sound like Obama. Obama is the first president that I know of to refer to Americans as the enemy. Enjoy him while you can. We are sending him back to Chicago.

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Kevin L. Krans

12:08 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I probably shouldn't have stated my point quite that way. But, I am just trying to say that it baffles me trying to understand how any Black, Latino, woman, or gay person could possibly be GOP. The ony 2 explanations that make sense to me are 1) religious affiliation regarding abortion or other moral majority issues, or 2) victims of propaganda.
Anyone should be able to see the 'diversity' of the RNC as a charade at best. Yes, the GOP will become more inclusive over time because it MUST to remain viable. That doesn't mean minorities should suddenly have amnesia regarding which party has worked more for equality.

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Sandy

1:15 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I am always surprised at the audacity of the non- “Black, Latino, woman, or gay person” to suggest what is best and how a “Black, Latino, woman, or gay person” should think and feel. I assure you Kevin that I have not amnesia and I am perfectly capable of deciding what is best for me. You will never find me telling you or anyone else how they should feel or think when I have not lived for them nor have a clue of their experience. I consider myself far too humble for that.

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Jeff Haas

1:19 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I think the burden is on you, Sandy, to explain why it's in your best interest as a black woman to vote for Romney/Ryan when the policies of the Republican party are distinctly anti-black and anti-woman. You may well have good reasons to do so, but you haven't told us what they are yet.

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GregRodgers

1:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I am interested in hearing why Sandy feels its in her best interests to vote Romney/Ryan. It is correct, Republicans have been Anti-Black, Anti-Woman. Just listen to how Newt wants to teach all blacks the way to get ahead. That one was funny!....

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Chris

1:37 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Jeff Haas, Sandy nor anyone else has a burden to prove anything to you chum. Your rants here on the patch have proven you to be a self-serving, bombastic, liberal moron. I doubt very many consider your hate for fellow Americans to be intelligent or agreeable.

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rhelm

2:42 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I'm willing to bet that Sandy is a troll.....fake account with a fake avatar. Checking her profile and first post in reference to being pro-Chic-fil-a, it's an easy guess where this person got the idea from.

Now who might the REAL 'Sandy' be??....the original post writer perhaps??? ..She for one seems to suffer from multiple personalities at times.

Michael k

12:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Wow. I didn't consider Cynthia's post to be all that controversial until I started reading the comments. Now it seems the hornets nest has been stirred.

The only point I would make to the original posting by Cynthia is that in her estimation the coverage was biased because it showed white males 85% of the time (her estimate).

While delegates at the convention do not self-report their demographics (e.g., male/female, white/black/latino/asian) it was estimated in an article published on the Fox News Latino web site that more than 90 percent of delegates at the Republican convention were reportedly non-Hispanic whites.

This doesn't address the male/female disparity noted in Cynthia's post, which was the point of her post although the comments have wandered away from that original point. It seems to support my own personal belief that the policies of the GOP do not resonate as well with non-whites. I don't mean to say (@Sandy) that there is no reason for a non-white to support the GOP.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/08/29/republican-convention-latino-delegates-few-say-gop-reflects-values/#ixzz25WCRIcWQ

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GregRodgers

1:25 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I agree Michael K....no reason why a non-white should not support the GOP. I am just interested on the why would a non-white support the GOP. Just wondering....thats all.

Jeff Haas

2:01 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Wow, Chris, I thought we were having an intelligent discussion here. It's because I love my fellow Americans that I'm concerned who they vote for, and that we all work together for the common good. To the Democrats' great fortune, the Republican party has turned this election into a referendum on the Republican party, and as such they are much more likely to lose. However, I was and still am interested in learning why Sandy intends to vote Republican. Like I said, she may well have good reasons, and I'd be the first to say that every individual American has the right to vote however they want, and her specific interests may well align with the Republicans this time. But she hasn't said why that may be so.

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Chris

2:11 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Does your second version impress you more than your first? It just goes to show how arrogant you are. You didn't even reply under the correct conversation.

Why would anyone take your advise?

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Jeff Haas

2:18 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well, Chris Man-With-No-Last-Name, this forum's editing capabilities leave a lot to be desired. But now I'm started to wonder if "Sandy" actually exists because she's not responding. Could it be that somebody has been posting under an assumed identity?

Jeff Haas

3:03 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I think you're right, rhelm -- we have a troll in our midst. "Sandy" and "Chris" are gone, and we haven't heard from Cynthia (who I have to assume exists) in a long while. Too bad. I would've enjoyed hearing from the only black woman in the Republican party other than Condaleeza Rice.

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Michael k

3:21 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

I won't speak for Sandy but I still recognize that there are many reasons why a "Black, Latino, woman, or gay person" (Sandy's words, not mine) might support the GOP.

1. Sandy's rich. She's part of the 1% and she puts her own individual financial interests foremost.

Non-partisan analyses of Romney’s tax plan have estimated that it could add more than $3 trillion to the federal deficit,and would favor the highest-earning Americans,possibly raising annual taxes on middle-class earners by as much as $2,000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney

Sandy considers this information but decides her individual finances are more important.

2. Sandy is anti-abortion, perhaps even in cases of rape and the safety of the mother. She considers this issue paramount. She may put her personal financial interests aside (if she is not part of the 1%) for the sake of supporting this issue.

3. Sandy supports a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Again, she may put her personal financial interests aside for the sake of supporting this issue.

4. Sandy is fervently "right-to-work" (or "anti-union" depending on which side of the issue you may be).

5. Sandy believes in privatizing social welfare programs like Medicare and Social Security.

Lots of reasons. None work for me, but maybe for Sandy.

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rhelm

3:23 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Dear Moderator (Kristi?).....can you check the IP of these people and compare with other active accounts? If they are in fact troll's and willing to stoop that LOW, it would be nice to know....

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Kristi Reed

4:22 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Hi rhelm - I do not have a way to check IP addresses. I would have to send it up to IT. As with any Internet site, I think it is always safe to assume there may be people who create multiple accounts.

Tammy Osier

7:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Brian, for the record- Mitt did ask Condi and her answer is the same each time. She refuses to enter the political arena with the climate the way it is. Here is one quote when interviewed, " "Charlie, I didn't run for student council president. I don't see myself in any way in elected office. I love policy. I'm not particularly fond of politics," she told host Charlie Rose, adding that she thinks Romney has "terrific judgment."

For those who want to know more about blacks and being republican, check out these sites. I was surprised at how many are 'afraid" to come out of the closet because of the name calling. Shame on those who disrespect these wonderful people.
blackrepublican.blogspot.com/
http://blackgop.ning.com/
www.nbra.info/
http://townhall.com/columnists/townhallcomstaff/2011/11/08/what_it_means_to_be_a_black_conservative/page/full/

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David

9:51 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Jeff,
Just catching up from earlier. How is the Republican party anti-black and anti-woman? Curious as to how you deduced that.

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Chris

10:30 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

He and his good buddies are paranoid. Apparently when one gets involved and interjects his racist blathering, he freaks out and accuses them of being a troll.
Shocking! Just what you might expect from those kind.

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Jeff Haas

6:40 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

David, sorry we missed you. Mostly, I can deduce that the Republican party is anti-black and anti-woman by listening to what they say and reading their platform. However, I can understand your confusion when they use so many code words in an attempt to hide their true feelings. But don't take my word for it. Apparently, the electorate felt that way in 2008 when 56% of women and 96% of blacks voted for Obama, and if you think that Republicans have ingratiated themselves with those two constituencies over the past four years, think again.

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Chris

7:51 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

There's your answer David. Because Obama won in 2008.

GregRodgers

9:36 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Hey Cynthia...

I kept switching back and forth between Fox (W/Cavuto) and CNN.

Just want you to feel better when I tell you that when Lilly Ledbetter was speaking...you know the lady for whom the "Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Law" was named after....instead of showing her speach, Cavuto and those great Fox News folks chose to interview Former Mass Treasurer Steve Grossman. In fact during most of the speaches...Cavuto held interviews. Thats fair and balanced I tell you.

So there...Fox chose not to show this woman speak.

Are you happy now?

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Jeff Haas

10:05 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

And it was a great speech! I'm sure it's available on YouTube, and I'm also sure that most women will take into account that the very first bill Obama signed into law was an equal-pay-for-equal-work law for women. I was surprised and delighted to see that Lily Ledbetter was an actual living human being, and even though she never received justice for herself, she's still seeking it for other women, and she's enthusastically supporting Obama.

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Brian Crawford

10:36 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Here's her speech. Lily is a true American hero, hope everyone will watch it: http://tinyurl.com/caezzzv

Cynthia Montgomery

11:41 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Hello All! First, GR I am always happy! Thank you for proving my point! As to names; some people will use a fake name because they want to be a part of the conservation but, do not want to be "outed." I can understand that. Some people will comment but only put a first name or two initials, I get that. Some will use a fake name like "Ladies Voice." It does not bother me in the least. I use my name. I don't agree with everything I hear each day but, I don't walk around with a bag on my head hiding from others. Differences are OK. Some write in to stir up things & see how many responses they evoke. I liken them to the loud mouth at the party that everyone tries to avoid! My goal is to comment on what I see & then listen for other's opinions. Some of my post get little response, some get major activity. It is all about sharing ideas because we just don't have time to go sit at the barber shop & swap stories. All of us here know that unless we start our own political party NEITHER party will meet our every belief. Most lean towards a party that is closest to their held beliefs. The major things that I see making the difference between D & R are; personal responsibility & fixing the economy. As a R, I don't agree with all my party yet, I'm here because this party fits my beliefs better than the demos. Women, blacks, & Latinos are R's by choice for the same reason. R's believe, hand up, NOT hand out for life! Hey guys, please respond with respect to each other. BYE BYE!

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Tammy Osier

6:58 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Cynthia, did you by any chance look at any of the links I put up? There are WAY more black conservatives thatn any of us know. They're just afraid to go public because of the ridicule they get from their peers. They have a way to go, but hopefully willget the courage as many have already.
On another note...I think it's so funny that the democrats booed God and Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. All the while a big sign PALESTINIANS FOR OBAMA hangs nearby. lolol They only voted to put it back in because of political expediency. Tells me a lot about who and what they support (and don't).

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Keith Best

7:17 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Mia Love, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin, Ann Romney, Janna Ryan, Ann Coulter.

These are only a smidgen of examples of women who have been attacked mercilessly by liberals being called vile names. This is the real "war on women" and it's been going on for years.

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